Travels & Architecture AhBoon | 05 Apr 2007 08:06 am
A 5-Star Prison in Austria
Life in prison…You think its bad ,well not so bad in this one.
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It looks like an Apple Store, isn’t it?
In Austria there is a prison from your dreams .I am sure that many of you people would leave your homes and go to ‘Justice Center Leoben‘ in Austria. Why ? Check these pictures and say that your house looks better than that one. This place actually calls you to make some crime activities. Only complaint on this cell is there is no computer and Internet in the cells.
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Ohya, you can even arrange you love one to stay in an awesomely comfortable rooms for her conjugal visits.
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Anybody still want to stay in a cheap flat house??
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on 05 Apr 2007 at 10:06 am 1.StateOfBrain said …
Haha these are some really neat pictures.
I’m not sure why anyone would want to live in a shack if they could stay here for free.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 10:14 am 2.Keifus said …
I think this is the right idea. Make them feel like human beings and maybe they can sort out their troubled little heads. Instead of making them feel like animals, make them feel comfortable and give them a life most of them never had. Of course some cons are so twisted they’ll never change but I like this alot.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 11:12 am 3.Spliznork said …
Reminds me of this quote — “The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons,” Fyodor Dostoevsky
on 05 Apr 2007 at 11:13 am 4.Sulav said …
aww my fellow liberal Austrians
I hope our conservative US government learns it from you.Thank you for setting up such an example
on 05 Apr 2007 at 11:15 am 5.American Architecture, or a lack there of at Pensieri di un lunatico minore said …
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on 05 Apr 2007 at 11:33 am 6.Lackadaisical said …
The view of the prison cell made me really sad — it looks more modern and spacious than my current dorm room!
on 05 Apr 2007 at 11:46 am 7.Anon said …
Wow, I’ve got to say, this has got to fall into categories. 1) It’s not free, and is an “upgrade” that wealthy inmates can opt for (I hope so), or 2) It is free. If it is free, that’s just a horrible idea, what bum wouldn’t repeatedly get himself sent to a luxury prison on the taxpayer’s dime.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 12:04 pm 8.Wahlau.NET said …
what is the point of doing this arr….so criminal is staying better than begger.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 12:19 pm 9.Sherwin said …
I’m sure the Austrian taxpayers are glad they pay 80% income tax in order to fund IKEA Prisons.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 12:23 pm 10.Epizoic » Blog Archive » Scenes from an Austrian Prison said …
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on 05 Apr 2007 at 12:59 pm 11.discarded lies - hyperlinkopotamus said …
What prison is like in Austria…
What prison is like in Austria…
on 05 Apr 2007 at 1:40 pm 12.John said …
It’s interesting that your reaction to a clean, presentable and newly built prison building is to sarcastically imply that it will encourage crime. Isn’t it troubling that the implicit assumption behind that logic is that prisoners deserve no better than squalid and ill-kept facilities.
Leaving aside the preposterousness of the idea that incarceration — which is meant to be a deprivation of liberties, not of proper accomodations and care — would be preferable to some imaginary desperate beggars, this is totally at odds with the notion that criminal justice is about punishment and rehabilitation, not torture.
Frankly, the extremely photogenic environment and the persistent use of glass rather than concrete seems to reflect the notion that all parts of our government should be open and visible. Our prisons should not be something to hide away because they are inhumanely disgusting. This building is clearly meant for public view, a concept that is really quite comforting for those of us who still believe in transparent democracies and fair justice.
Prisons are public architecture and should be buildings for the country that builds them to be proud to see and acknowledge. Producing one that is artistically pleasing and encourages visibility into the treatment of those with the fewest legal protections in society is both courageous and admirable.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 1:57 pm 13.Anon said …
Nonetheless, I agree with Lackadaisical.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 2:03 pm 14.John said …
Well yes, indeed… cleaner than my dorm rooms were too…
on 05 Apr 2007 at 2:05 pm 15.Anon said …
Um, it’s not preposterous to say that beggars would try to get imprisoned. It happens in the US, and our prison’s aren’t anything like this resort. If this place is free, then it will get full fast unless there is some sort of criteria for getting in like good behavior in another institution for a while before.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 2:11 pm 16.dmiessler.com | grep understanding knowledge said …
[…] When one society’s prisons look better than another’s average living quarters, you have a problem. I mean this is just insane. The gyms are better than our YMCA, and the living facilities are like ultra-high-end apartments. […]
on 05 Apr 2007 at 2:18 pm 17.John said …
I’d be interested to hear more about this problem of beggars getting in to prison. Is this just surmised, or are there documented cases? Also, are we talking night-in-jail type offenses or trial-convicion-prison situations? I could perhaps see someone goofing off and spending the night in jail if it’s below zero out, but I can’t imagine a planned crime calulated to land just the right sentence length in the facility of one’s choice. In any event, such a long term stay *would* in fact be mediated — that’s what judges are for. I’m pretty sure this place is a prison not a jail.
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on 05 Apr 2007 at 5:22 pm 19.Matteo said …
Now that you saw our prisons here in Austria, just imagine how our domiciles look like…
;-)
on 05 Apr 2007 at 5:46 pm 20.nik said …
it’s still a prison like any other just with neat architecture. although i admittedly have the feeling they blurred the inmates not to protect their identity but to hide the big fat smile on their faces
on 05 Apr 2007 at 5:48 pm 21.Hong said …
To all who fear a nice prison who be filled up by volunteers soon:
This won’t happen, if:
The beggars in that country can enjoy an even cleaner and spacious living environment than the mentioned glass prison.
P.S. The prison is better than my home too.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 6:42 pm 22.aditya said …
Even though Iam coming from a way poorer country like India, I think what people need to know is at the end of the day, even with the gym and all the shiney surface, in depth, its still a prison, not home. The matrix looks good does’nt mean its not a matrix
on 05 Apr 2007 at 7:08 pm 23.Ferdo said …
I can see how people can bring their children to this prison and tell them: “If you don`t study and obey your parents you can end like this…”.
I think this is too much. It is the same as Chinese prison ( know just from hearing
). Both of them are not accurate.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 8:41 pm 24.prisonbreak said …
well, well, well… i think i will ask for an
austrian citizenship, i will do some pillaging and murdering for a couple of months until i
get caught and then i will live better than i
do now. wanna join me? i will meet you in
‘adolf hitler’ sauna-longe-bar in ‘Justice Center Leoben‘. btw, if you are a bigshot
criminal, well then… i think you are a friend
of the warden, right?
on 05 Apr 2007 at 8:41 pm 25.cryptogon.com » Archives » Justice Center Leoben: New Apple Store, or Austrian Prison? said …
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on 05 Apr 2007 at 8:42 pm 26.bile said …
Hi,
I use to be visiting this building last year for one day with a guide, and I must say that the first pictures don’t show the prison itself. In that building (with tree short “towers”) there are two diferent courts of justice (for the region and municipality),and the offices of the district attorney. The building behid thid one is a jail. Two buldings are connected with a bridge. They have a problem with a air condition - there is none. On the picture nr. 4 you can see the wooden plates on the front - they supposed to regulate the air circulation so that air condition should be obsolete - but it doesn`t work! The prison itself is intended for the inmates in last 2 two years of inprisonment, and have a large house outside of the prison walls, so the inprisoned (in their last 1/2 year) can go to job each day (outside of the prison), and renew their social life. The assumption is that the people with workin social background will not tend to become deliquent again.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 10:16 pm 27.Liming Xu said …
Seriously, beggar won’t commit a crime just to get in the prison. That’s ridiculous. ANY prison is better than living on the street with no food and no shelters. Following this same logic, why the hell do we still have so many beggars? Because they have a 3 star minimum standard in prison condition? C’mon ppl. A beautiful prison is still a prison.
As for tax payers’ money, that’s all political talk man. Just save some money by dropping less missiles that we are doing all over the place, you can do whatever you want.
Anyway, a beautiful place and I think it’ll help the prisoners to get back on their feet, think about what they’ve done without lowering their self-esteem and further confirming they are “animals” as oppose to if they live in a dirty, animal like environment. I think by living in the “good” places, they’ll think about getting a REAL job after they get out of the prison.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 10:20 pm 28.daniel said …
“I’m not sure why anyone would want to live in a shack if they could stay here for free.”
because they can’t walk out and go where they want, when they want?
duh.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 10:32 pm 29.andy said …
for one, i personally know someone that gets himself thrown in jail every winter because he has no heating in his house.
i’m all for rehabilitation, i really am, but when criminals get treated better than the law-abiding poor people, something is drastically wrong.
on 05 Apr 2007 at 11:32 pm 30.Carpe Diem said …
No matter what who says about it. The fact remains that prison is not meant to be a place where people come out of thinkin “hmmm, I’m gonna miss the foozball-table and the nice gym”.
Hope Austrians get what they deserve, criminals that like prison so much that it doesn’t scare them away from crimes.
Torture is the way to go!
on 05 Apr 2007 at 11:49 pm 31.Moonbattery said …
Life in Prison: A Dream Come True…
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on 06 Apr 2007 at 12:32 am 32.Ted Laskaris said …
Who said that a life of crime does not pay …! LOL !
on 06 Apr 2007 at 1:35 am 33.Alex said …
That’s disgusting. Criminals should be in small, cramped grey squares not living in Hilton rooms. Rehabilitation? Please. Once you commit murder you prove that you’re unable to value human life.
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on 06 Apr 2007 at 3:14 am 35.V the K said …
I think one can make an intelligent distinction between “treating prisoners with decency” and “rewarding criminals with absurd levels of luxury.”
Although, apparently, the ability of the leftist mind to distinguish the two is lacking.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 3:36 am 36.Jimmy said …
Ass rape is still ass rape even with Ikea furniture…
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on 06 Apr 2007 at 4:25 am 38.Nigel said …
If prisons start to look better than regular accommodation wouldn’t it make more sense to try to make society more equitable in order improve regular people’s living conditions, instead of just making prisons worse out of jealousy?
on 06 Apr 2007 at 5:01 am 39.Rick Stammer said …
The person who posted this OBVIOUSLY does NOT speak any German whatsoever as the outside of the building clearly states that it is a county courthouse, not a prison.
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on 06 Apr 2007 at 10:01 am 41.DH said …
Criminal Justice… crime and punishment… where’s the punishment?
Liberals… Ha, don’t make me laugh… Rather than supporting a nicely built prison, shouldn’t you guys advocate better-built schools, hospitals, community centers, homeless shelters, saving the environment, save the whales, etc. instead? Renovating prisons should be the *last* thing on your list.
Prison is still prison? Just imagine… you’re jobless and poor, you’ve got nothing to lose so you commit a robbery and ended up in this prison. Now, you don’t need to worry about your daily meals, signing up for a gym club membership, or even entertainment. You now have a life with routine, sure beats a life with a questionable tomorrow. If they let you out where do you pick up your life? Back in the slums?
No, you don’t need a 5-star prison for rehabilitation. You need a 5-star community center to help unfortunate people feed themselves, get educated, get jobs, etc. You want to spend money to *PREVENT* crimes before they happen, not on rehabilitation after victims have already suffered from crimes. It’ll be money better spent.
on 06 Apr 2007 at 11:38 am 42.mo said …
Nice, clean - isn’t that what NEW buildings look like?
I am not an advocate of luxury prisons - taxpayers shouldn’t have to provide Above Average housing for lawbreakers.
I could care less if they don’t have air conditioning. MOST people on this earth don’t have air conditioning, so that isn’t exactly a horrible punishment.
Anyways, apart from being NEW, this place doesn’t look all THAT exciting. Like a very low-end IKEA.
Whoever designed it perhaps just did a brilliantly good job within their budget?
on 06 Apr 2007 at 3:45 pm 43.Quiza hoy said …
u have to be kidding, that looks like googleplex
on 06 Apr 2007 at 5:27 pm 44.croatia Horvat said …
This is absolute great!! And more, 5stars prison provide results in low rate crime campaign.
This is only way to convert criminals from crime, I agree?!
..compared with hungarian prisons where prisoners are all the time with chains on their legs, this is heaven. Not to mention russian prisons - lots of homosexual rapists, rumunian and bulgarian prisson are in terrible condition too. And I know that in bad prisson conditions prisoners are thinking only how to commit perfectly next crime - to get out of misery.
I hope that this is about to happenned in Croatia too.
…only way to cut the crime rate, believe me, I know.
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on 07 Apr 2007 at 2:16 am 47.Bubublaster said …
41.DH said …
Criminal Justice… crime and punishment… where’s the punishment?
Liberals… Ha, don’t make me laugh… Rather than supporting a nicely built prison, shouldn’t you guys advocate better-built schools, hospitals, community centers, homeless shelters, saving the environment, save the whales, etc. instead? Renovating prisons should be the *last* thing on your list.
Prison is still prison? Just imagine… you’re jobless and poor, you’ve got nothing to lose so you commit a robbery and ended up in this prison.
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LOL, im from Autria and plz … Citizens of the US shut up. Not all of you but quite a lot plz. Fewer than 50% of your Country does actually vote, ur school system is allmost the worst in the world, you have the highest murder/citizen-numbers in the world and still think guns will save you, your state treats everybody which fails your system like they were animals, you pollute the world like no other and still you are not willing to reduce it, stop arguing about something you cannot understand, and never will be… and plz dont play Superherofreedom-Force again, nobody wants to live like you, really nobody. You brought more death than anything else to this world.
on 07 Apr 2007 at 6:31 am 48.Bill said …
Interesting concept. Questions: One of the viewers commeted that the building is actually a ‘ court house’. Another mentioned a jail connected to the pictured building by a’bridge’. Are we being shown a functional justice system administrative facility with a jail and confinement building or area left unseen? Maybe a request to see a footprint diagram would help in the interpretation. All that glitters may not be glass.
on 07 Apr 2007 at 9:39 am 49.arschloch said …
The point is..
This is in Austria (Oesterreich)
Oesterreicher (Austrians).. got this standard.
Culture in Asturia… is this.
Do not be ashamed, do not be disapointed!
Work on it!
Do it in USA.. or IraQ..or
Learn
Listen
Respect
Belive in better tomorow
Belive in “Rest of the World”
Do not be stupid
Be yourself
People is living around the Globe
not only in USA
Jail is Jail
Courthouse is Courthouse
Culture is for everyone
Live your life out of prison!
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on 10 Apr 2007 at 7:20 pm 52.Stella said …
Wow strange reactions going on around here!
To me this seems like the right idea: treat them like people, not animals and they’ll behave like ones. And like someone said earlier there are requirements to get in there, it’s a part of getting the convicts into being valid working members of society before being set loose. Isn’t that supposed to be the point of prisons?
on 11 Apr 2007 at 6:55 am 53.simo said …
Ok. My next crime happen in austria. If I don’t make it, put my room ready. Btw I want red mahogany floors and fast internet in my room. Also Jacuzzi is required!
on 11 Apr 2007 at 5:12 pm 54.Europe said …
I can’t believe that condition of life is so poor in the US that people would want to live in a prison? Maybe they don’t like their so called freedom after all..
on 11 Apr 2007 at 7:42 pm 55.Pekkis said …
LoL, all the prisons in Finland look like that.. and here the inmates are able to work and recieve paychecks during theyr inprisonment..
on 11 Apr 2007 at 9:13 pm 56.Finnish said …
Hah…
All prisons in Finland doesn’t really look like that. Finnish prisons are about european average. And that working thing… prisoners in closed institutions are paid average 0,5 euro /hour.
I think it’s great thing to have different comfort level of prisons. If inmate behaves good, he should be transfered to better prison and the other way around.
on 12 Apr 2007 at 1:03 am 57.Sigurður said …
In Iceland, that’s what the prisons look like. Well, not glass walls, but they have TV, gym, classrooms (for rehabilitation) and even computers in their rooms. I agree with having good prisons because we want our criminals to get better, study in prison and have a chance of a better life.
on 12 Apr 2007 at 8:39 am 58.Luiz said …
i Really think that will grow up the crime, because i would like to go to the on to stay on this place. omg it is amazing
on 12 Apr 2007 at 4:57 pm 59.eusto said …
Well…I’ll give that prison a call to ask about computer usage rules, and if they fit, the next thing i’ll do is to take a plane to austria, beat the s*** out of some random guy and hope to spend my next 3 or so years there. It would be like college all over again
on 12 Apr 2007 at 9:01 pm 60.개고기 said …
와.. 씨발 죽이네..
on 13 Apr 2007 at 4:07 pm 61.Perkele said …
No shit.. why should prisoners have comfortable rooms?
That’s just funny, really.. your crime-rates in Austria will surely grow soon.
It’s totally the opposite, we shoul return to dark ages when prisons were much like hell, or often most serious killers were just plainly executed. That teaches something, now they just re-do their crimes only to get back to these comfy prisons…
Maybe if your crime is something humanistic like tax-treachery etc. then you would get a more comfortable flat. But from murders, raping, pedophilia, that should earn you a horrible pigsty with at least life-sentence, maybe death. Only few psychos can really become normal tax-paying citizens anymore.. so don’t put much hope on that.
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on 17 Apr 2007 at 4:46 pm 64.Mei Ling said …
Please send me to jail in Austria! Hahaha… But wait, I can’t survive without internet …
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on 08 May 2007 at 1:24 am 66.Lepra said …
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, eh?
on 13 May 2007 at 1:36 am 67.KingSmilies.de said …
Was für ein Knast! wer da wohl alles hinkommt.. bestimmt nur Promis?? oder was muss man da anstellen?
on 13 May 2007 at 7:18 pm 68.Sven said …
Oh Gott…wie kann man nur für so etwas stimmen.
Das ist ja schlimmer als in Deutschland.
on 23 May 2007 at 6:31 pm 69.hareesh mokasi said …
oh unbelievable…thats one of the better way to deal with prisoners…hats to the great idea..
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on 22 Jun 2007 at 2:19 pm 71.AAS said …
W9v7V6 Hey, there is what you need.
on 22 Jun 2007 at 6:04 pm 72.walbadon said …
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i like it a lot………………….
on 27 Jun 2007 at 1:11 pm 73.john doe said …
Wow ! Their victims must be thrilled
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on 28 Jun 2007 at 1:05 am 75.Evan said …
This is a joke, so when someone commits a crime they get rewarded. This disgusts me. Why don’t you try to tell a parent of a small child next time they do something bad take them out for an ice cream, any parent in their right mind would laugh at you, and anyone who supports this idea should be laughed at as well…..IDIOTS!!!!
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on 30 Jun 2007 at 9:13 pm 77.diamin said …
If you look @ the prison system in the U.S.A., we are sooooo over crowded. This would be a prototype to try over here for inmates who have a chance @ becoming rehabilitated, a new chance at becoming a part of society again. Not meant for killers, rapist, child molesters or other hainus crimes. This should be for those who’s crimes were not a threat to society. Somethings gotta give! Our present system is not improving! I just heard on the news how we are overcrowded and just letting prisoners out on early release because of the problem. In order to truly rehabilitate, you need humane quarters, counseling, education, truly changed behavior and a prayer. I would like to see this experiment for the safety of our society. Even though I live in the ghetto and am myself a single parent and struggling. Don’t hate because you have less. Safety is the key. It would be a good idea to try. It can’t hurt. And I am not a liberal. I believe the punishment should fit the crime but…….we have to try something different and this “may” be it!!
on 30 Jun 2007 at 9:22 pm 78.diamin said …
What are the stats? The success rate of crime??
That may determine wheather this may be an idea to try. At present the U.S. is setting violent criminals back on the streets without any rehab due to over crowding. This would be a type of prison for those that have a shot at becoming a part of society again. This would definitely not be for child predetors(they should be shot!!!), or sex crimes (again), murderers and the like! We have to come to terms that the prison system in the U.S. is failing. I live in the ghetto and I constantly see the revolving door. Decent living quarters, educate,extensive counseling sessions, no gym, I am not too sure about conjugal visits {look at what the priest do without sex}, but that’s it. Sunlight is nessesary! This could be modified to become an experiment here!
on 01 Jul 2007 at 6:09 am 79.austria forum said …
That’s nuts. These prison cells are more comfortable than most college dormitories. I guess the government has enough funding for these kinds of projects. I wonder if the prisoners actually get rehabilitated though.
on 24 Jul 2007 at 3:24 am 80.Anonymous said …
WOW!!! They need to make one of these in Ontario, Canada. That’s more like a 10 star! I was not expecting that…
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on 16 Aug 2007 at 12:44 pm 86.sustained said …
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on 08 Oct 2007 at 1:30 pm 87.In the Clink - English Forum Switzerland said …
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on 21 Oct 2007 at 3:38 pm 89.mute said …
its a fashionista jail..thats all
on 26 Oct 2007 at 8:06 pm 90.j.gilbert said …
well then hell i will move to the downunder and do a coupple of crimes and a coupple of muders and get thrown in to the luxary prison/hotel for mmm i could live there for 20 years hell i would feel like a king liveing there the us prison/jail system is nothing like your prison so ha i wil become a austrelen citzen and goto prison for live and live better there then i do now i work 80 a week and i dont have a house like what the prisonrs have so…….. who wants to join me just kidding…
on 01 Dec 2007 at 3:11 am 91.Rajeev Kumar said …
It really depends on the circumstances. For troubled youth involved in non-violent crimes I would say that it is good that we do not treat them like animals. In the US the rate of recidivism is extremely high because we mix murderers with potheads and treat everyone as an animal. Also it may feel good to get tough, but go to a place called “chop chop square” in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and you will see why we should take pride in being a civilized western country unlike those barbarians.
But Europe is far too lax on its prisoners. Terrorists, murderers, and rapists receive notoriously light prison sentences. And in general there should be some fear of the prison system. European militaries are too cowardly to fight terrorism and their police and prison systems are so blinded by their bleeding heart compassion that they forget that they have to protect the law-abiding citizens and not just the criminals.
on 16 Dec 2007 at 10:35 am 92.Robocock said …
Crime will go through the roof, its a joke!!!
on 10 Jan 2008 at 8:51 pm 93.Alethia said …
Thinking about this rationally, it is true that this “prison” has better accomodations than any average working middle class family can afford. This will probably boost crime rates… not because the beggars will want to commit crimes to get into this particular prison (though some may), but because the image of a prison will change. What I mean is that when people think “should I go kill someone” or “should I rob a bank” they weigh the pros & cons (subconciously). They do the comparison in this case & think ‘oh, prison won’t be that bad, in fact, it’ll be absurdly comfortable’. This just means that there will be no punishment, nothing to tell them that killing and stealing is wrong.
I am not a fan of the “torture” and capital punishment theories, but I still believe that providing accomodations that can easily surpass those of average citizens is not really a prudent decision.
Treating criminals like humans are good (mass murderers & those that do inhuman crimes: no judgement/excluded) since they are humans, providing them with food and time to reflect is good, having jobs available is good… giving them a fully furnished facility that is just the personification of LUXERY is not so good.
Just get back on track and shift the focus off rehabilation and onto culture and education so that the younger generations will be able to have firmly lodge morals and a less violent society. Education will give them better jobs and less homeless and so on. As many said above, it is the PREVENTION of crime that we should be working on, not the rehab.
They’ve really got to understand this, cause if more of these prisons pop up, I don’t know how our crime rates will ricochet.
- Alethia
on 12 Jan 2008 at 9:27 am 94.Ben said …
Better than going to some Federal “Pound-me-in-the-ass” Prisons.
on 12 Jan 2008 at 2:36 pm 95.Rxl said …
All those lights blazing away at night would drive me crazy.
on 12 Jan 2008 at 3:19 pm 96.David said …
Maybe the right idea, but this is excessive.
I do agree that we should have more comfortable prisons in the US, but they don’t have to be fucking luxurious.
There’s no need for TV, computers, internet, ping-pong tables, just give people humane accommodations without dehumanizing them.
Then, less people would develop the prisoners mindset and repeat their crimes.
Of course, there should be regular prisons for people who can’t/shouldn’t be rehabilitated, your good ole rapists and killers. Even if you could rehabilitate, which is rather unlikely, fuck them, they fucked up and now they got what’s coming to them.
A jail like the Austrian one would never work in the US. The US doesn’t have a homogeneous population, like Austria. US prisons have blacks, whites, latinos, asians, arabs, indians, etc…, and with such a variety, theres bound to be ‘racial tensions’, to put it lightly. Inter-prison violence and rivalry would still be a problem, even if the US adopts this mode of prisons.
People would cite that this Austrian prison resulted in lower crime rates, proving it works, but Austria, once again, has a homogeneous population, they don’t go hating and killing and insulting each other because of their skin color or national origins.
on 15 Jan 2008 at 4:40 am 97.kayla said …
hey this is a joke no one that gets sent to prison should life the that. they live better that most people do not in prsion and have a family and that did not do nothign roung. so ya. I think they should get rid of that persion and put one there that they would regrit and would bnot what to doa crime no more. but this one will make you want to do crims to get in there>
on 15 Jan 2008 at 4:48 am 98.kyle said …
I think we should get rid of that presion bacuse that preson is nicer then my house. and people will do crims to get in the person.
they should sufer the crim that they did and not in a 5-star person.
on 18 Jan 2008 at 10:26 am 99.pointer said …
well no one is getting to make a crim just to go to this place, because most of poeple in austria and EU are living wealthy. Criminals who are put in this environment starts to undestand how great life could be without crimes he is doing, he realises that he can live without doing crimes.
on 26 Jan 2008 at 8:49 pm 100.Kezza said …
There is a certain percentage of the population who is likely to commit a crime. The condition of a prison is not a factor in this figure. Sure, some people may live better in prison than in the outside world but if they are willing to commit a crime to improve their living conditions then they are already in that segment of the population considered likely to break the law.
Anyone who has been incarcerated will tell you that it isn’t a cake walk no matter how pretty the prison is. You are still on the state’s schedule and your freedom is severely limited.
The bars are still there.
on 03 Feb 2008 at 2:58 am 101.Heidi J said …
No matter how wonderful the surroundings, I much rather be with my family in our humble little place, than live in a palace alone, without the chance of freedom.
One must have a mental illness to prefer incarceration over freedom to choose. Talk is cheap:-) All of you that offered to commit crimes to go to this place still haven’t done so. Why? It only proves that no matter how nice a place is, we do value our freedom, our home, our family, and our morality more than that. Prison never has been a deterent to crime, no matter how horrible it is. The recidivism rate in Europe, including Austria, has always been a lot lower than it is in the US. Maybe it’s because Europeans value their citizens as human beings throughout their life and the US only seems to care about their’s after they’ve been victimized or murdered? In the US, prisons are all about money & revenge. Obviously, it’s NOT working and somebody neeeds to reevaluate what would work better. This looks more like someone finds the inmates as valuable human beings, not just animals that need to be warehoused for their prison term. I applaud the idea! You can’t strive for better if there is none. Give people something to strive for, maybe then you will see better results. 80% of all prisoners in the US will be released back to society. Think about it.
on 26 Feb 2008 at 4:51 am 102.Emily said …
This is dumb. They committed a crime and need to be punished, not rewarded. Which is exactly what this place is doing. Everything in here is way too nice for them. So, instead of giving money to the poor and needy, we’re giving luxury to the criminaly charged.
on 27 Feb 2008 at 1:53 am 103.Me said …
IT’S A COURT HOUSE!!!! It’s not a prison. The guy is playing a prank.
3rd picture down:
justizzentrum
judicial center
Landesgericht
National court
bezirksgericht
district court
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on 12 Mar 2008 at 3:43 am 105.bundy said …
KILL THEM ALL! thieving scum!
on 12 Mar 2008 at 9:54 am 106.Charley said …
If you look at the front they are quite clearly administrative buildings with the prison attached, those rooms aren’t as nice as my house or my dorm room last year and I’m a student. Not to mention I can do the nasty with my other half whenever I want and not when the government says I can.
Surely it says more about the standard of living experienced by the commentators that their country’s government deems it fine and dandy that they live their free lives in places worse than this.
A fair amount of petty criminals (and from the look of things this prison is designed to deal with them) are far more the product of a bad upbringing than being truly bad. Treat them with a bit of decency and compassion and hopefully they’ll return the favour. If they don’t next time you make it a bit worse. Show them that if they’re decent they’ll be treated well and if they’re not they won’t.
Of course maybe if we treated people well to begin with. Gave them a good education, good housing and cared about them we wouldn’t need so many prisons.
on 13 Mar 2008 at 8:26 pm 107.Daveyboysim said …
Metaphors of ‘government transparency’ aside (which is the stupidest argument I’ve ever heard), prison is effective, not just as a punishment, but as a deterrent.
When somebody is about to commit a crime, they often weigh up the projected rewards of doing so against the projected consequences of being caught and then decide whether one outweighs the other.
If the projected consequence of being caught is very undesirable, then a person is less likely to be inclined to take the chance and commit the crime.
However, if the projected consequence is not particularly off-putting, then they will be more inclined to commit the crime.
This department-store inspired hotel could hardly be thought of as a suitable deterrent against crime.
Think about it - if you really wanted to do something that was against the law and this was the worst you had to fear if you were caught, would it put you off commiting the crime?
Yes, I know they can’t come and go of their own free will, but they seem to have everything they want inside, so I don’t think that bothers them too much. Once they get out again, I expect a lot of them describe it as ‘the easiest time I ever did’. If this is the case, why would they not go back to crime? It just doesn’t provide a good enough reason to stay within the law.
Prisons shouldn’t be torturous or a place to break human spirit - I do believe that they should be concerned with re-habilitating inmates, so that they have the best chance of returning to the outside world without having to resort to crime again. However, there should also be a hard lesson learned whilst in there - hard enough that you would never wish to return.
This is a pretty cushy life and if I had my way, I would replace the glass with walls and metal bars and return the prison to a place of quiet reflection, where inhabitants can sit and think about the series of events that lead to them ending up there and what they will do differently when they get out.
on 23 Mar 2008 at 11:59 pm 108.vsandiq said …
I believe metaphor of transparency, Daveyboysim, is just that, a metaphor and not an argument. It is a “model,” (in the sociological use of the word), or a theoretical construct that we can use to critique the present “reality” of our contextual penal system. And insofar as your theory of penal hardship as deterrent, why, this kind of prison should all the more make you happy. Imagine criminals falling in line just to be incarcerated? sooner or later our crime rate would drop drastically.
Kidding aside, the multicomplex nature of the human psyche makes it hard to pinpoint what penal theory is effective. Heck, even the word effective, given the nature of the topic, would be subject of a lot of hairsplitting. Which is why this approach, this model as it were, can be a good study. What happens when we tweak the system a bit?
on 25 Mar 2008 at 8:21 pm 109.kanat said …
It has spartan arrangement, few properties, many activities, and isolation from outside life. There is no dorm I’d want to live in for many years without being allowed to leave. Freedom of movement is restrained in any jail, and is worth so much… and the society is protected from harm at the same time… This freedom is why there are some people who keep going back out to live on the street instead of staying with their families. In the US, after being released, most inmates soon go back to jail, and 60% don’t have a job after a year. It’s a great waste. They do not go back because jail is so good, but because it is too different from real life, and they can’t adjust back to society anymore…
on 26 Mar 2008 at 4:51 am 110.AnneDroid said …
What an interesting debate. I work in the Scottish Prison service which has two “open” jails which are controversial in this country too - should we treat prisoners as well as we do or not? The tabloid newspapers certainly would say NO.
For a number of our prisoners, jail life is undoubtedly a vast improvement on life outside, no bills, no responsibilities, routine and stability, and company.
But just because that’s true, it does not follow we should make jail conditions worse. This will only dehumanise these damaged people further. With support I have seen lots of guys do really well and be rehabilitated.
Of course the newspapers aren’t interested in them. You NEVER hear about the success stories. But that doesn’t mean there are none, here or in Austria, or anywhere else.
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on 13 May 2008 at 4:10 pm 112.babet said …
well no one is getting to make a crim just to go to this place, because most of poeple in austria and EU are living wealthy. Criminals who are put in this environment starts to undestand how great life could be without crimes he is doing, he realises that he can live without doing crimes.
on 16 Jun 2008 at 9:01 pm 113.oyun oyna said …
Think about it - if you really wanted to do something that was against the law and this was the worst you had to fear if you were caught, would it put you off commiting the crime?
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on 25 Jun 2008 at 5:09 pm 115.hakikat singh said …
ohh my god, more than 5000 year old culture, 3rd largest producer for docs, engg, and scintist, 2nd fastest growing economy blah blah blah,but after looking at this jail i challenge all indian politicains if they provide 10% of such cleanniness to indian GOVERMENT HOSPITALS in next 100 years than my great grand kids will salute them otherwise one of them will assasinate one of the ministers in india.